tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post8478781470327398604..comments2023-11-02T12:16:19.495+02:00Comments on The Jewish Worker: Is mixed seating on public transportation the cause of all our problems?blukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03774763780910614203noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-41714588264092582242009-04-22T20:47:00.000+03:002009-04-22T20:47:00.000+03:00Actually, this whole thing turns the issue on its ...Actually, this whole thing turns the issue on its head. The recent over-emphasis on Tznius in the Chareidi community is the <B>CAUSE</B> of many serious problems. Problems such as: Physical Violence, Abuse of Women, Loshon Hora, Sinat Chinam, property damage, G'Neiva.<br /><br />I will give the gedolim the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are being kept in the dark as to what's really going on out here.Michael Lipkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11501487897038161582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-69689733657245610502009-04-22T19:23:00.000+03:002009-04-22T19:23:00.000+03:00Rav Moshe's teshuva about what to do bdiavad in Er...Rav Moshe's teshuva about what to do bdiavad in Eretz HaAmim has no relelvance on what to do l'chatchila in Eretz HaYehudim.Yechezkel Hirshmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18417734718880643428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-6116545727339031792009-04-22T16:32:00.000+03:002009-04-22T16:32:00.000+03:00See R' Moshe's teshuva אבן העזר חלק ב סימן י"ד whe...See R' Moshe's teshuva אבן העזר חלק ב סימן י"ד where he is מתיר to go on the subway during the rush hour.blukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03774763780910614203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-76002431098991165472009-04-22T16:11:00.000+03:002009-04-22T16:11:00.000+03:00>>The second kol korei states
"לנסוע בהפרדה ...>><I>The second kol korei states<br />"לנסוע בהפרדה כפי שההלכה מחייבת"<br /><br />It says black on white that separate seating is a halachik requirement</I>I presume that the "halachik requirement" is Even HaEzer 21:1 as the chareidim (myself included) understand it and wish to apply it. I have pointed out this source in numerous posts of my own and, to date, nobody has come up with a refutation.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />1A7BYechezkel Hirshmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18417734718880643428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-36359484753608793082009-04-22T12:39:00.000+03:002009-04-22T12:39:00.000+03:00The second kol korei states
"לנסוע בהפרדה כפי שההל...The second kol korei states<br />"לנסוע בהפרדה כפי שההלכה מחייבת"<br /><br />It says black on white that separate seating is a halachik <B>requirement</B>blukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03774763780910614203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-53091834837135547622009-04-22T12:33:00.000+03:002009-04-22T12:33:00.000+03:00I don't see where they say that it is assur to rid...I don't see where they say that it is assur to ride a regular bus, just that it is more modesty to ride a "mehadrin" bus. Nor do I see a claim that this is THE cause, just something that can be improved.Ben Waxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798895161663664689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-87879105270718618702009-04-22T12:28:00.000+03:002009-04-22T12:28:00.000+03:00Actually, it appears that he would have been in fa...Actually, it appears that he would have been in favor of the separate buses, as he himself got off the bus in the end.Eliezerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12090842897478724260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-38563530624257096452009-04-21T23:57:00.000+03:002009-04-21T23:57:00.000+03:00...and they likely disagree with R' Shlomo Zalman ......and they likely disagree with R' Shlomo Zalman Auerbach too. See http://ohr.edu/yhiy/article.php/2609dbclintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05667179398722138165noreply@blogger.com