tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post2547767610421579870..comments2023-11-02T12:16:19.495+02:00Comments on The Jewish Worker: R' Elyashiv's No's - No to Nachal Charedi, No to Charedi colleges, No to Charedi job programsblukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03774763780910614203noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-91274671232124164222012-01-01T18:10:48.249+02:002012-01-01T18:10:48.249+02:00How should make a living?
They should daven more,...How should make a living?<br /><br />They should daven more, of course! They should increase their bitochon and just rely on Hashem to provide them with their needs!Daniel Breslauerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04543078530678851978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-37174079624326989932011-12-29T12:51:26.092+02:002011-12-29T12:51:26.092+02:00Read the letter. Nowhere does R' Elyashiv spec...Read the letter. Nowhere does R' Elyashiv specify any particular program - not Nachal Charedi, not michlalot or charedi colleges, nothing. He only generalizes about programs that are intended to bring Charedim under evil secular influences. I'm also against such things, if they exist. But as for programs that are genuinely intended to help Charedim make a parnossa, while preserving all their religious and lifestyle values - nowhere does the Rav say that he is against charedim learning a trade, and I cannot believe that he would say any such thing. All that this letter is effectively doing is saying, "Beware! There are programs out there that are intended to ensnare Jews into abandoning their values! Don't fall for them! Caveat Emptor!" <br /><br />The askanim do this all the time. When Rav Shteinman came to RBS as a guest of Degel Hatorah before the municipal elections, the next day Gimmel had published posters and flyers saying that Rav Shteinman had said it was nothing less than a Chillul Hashem to vote anything other than Gimmel. Then I read his actual statement, and it said nothing of the sort. All he said was that voting for people with non-Jewish values was a Chillul Hashem. The Gimmel party workers obviously felt that this meant anyone other than themselves, hence the subsequent marketing.<br /><br />So don't believe what you read in the media, until you've checked the sources. Same applies to charity collectors who shove "haskomas" in your face. Read them. And same applies to when a Rishon quotes a gemara: go to the source and make sure the quote is accurate. The results are sometimes very surprising.Shaul Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13657787388625188732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-82423736443476554882011-12-29T11:34:50.833+02:002011-12-29T11:34:50.833+02:00joshua:
First of all, I am almost certain that he ...joshua:<br />First of all, I am almost certain that he doesn't know anything about what is going on lately in RBS.<br />Secondly, those people despise him - it could be argued that there is no point talking to people who certainly won't listen anyway.dlzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08269900740743979382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-91582907422347466602011-12-29T02:46:33.776+02:002011-12-29T02:46:33.776+02:00no money for people sitting and learning. novel c...no money for people sitting and learning. novel concept.Lakewood Falling Downhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14483392684657880997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-78539450582810876312011-12-28T21:51:06.997+02:002011-12-28T21:51:06.997+02:00but posting a letter condemning spitting on girls ...but posting a letter condemning spitting on girls and calling them zonahs, he couldn't be bothered.joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11044019352086632658noreply@blogger.com