tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post2400588083649755846..comments2023-11-02T12:16:19.495+02:00Comments on The Jewish Worker: If I break your window do I need to pay?blukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03774763780910614203noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-18357983431083925802009-12-14T15:28:08.793+02:002009-12-14T15:28:08.793+02:00I would disagree with the premise that the value o...I would disagree with the premise that the value of the house is unaffected by the broken window. When I was selling a house, my realtor was insistent that the price was strongly affected by appearances. Not only would they have insisted I fix the window, in many cases they have recommended re-arranging the furniture, or even painting the walls in order to make the house seem lighter or more spacious and thus increase the price.<br /><br />It is possible that if you asked a realtor, the affect on the price of the house of an unfixed broken window would be many times replacement value, and thus the kula of the chazon ish would become a chumra.Larry Lennhoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06578073969473815180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-20704094418864839142009-12-14T13:45:14.782+02:002009-12-14T13:45:14.782+02:00Perhaps there is a difference between property tha...Perhaps there is a difference between property that must be repaired to prevent further damage (broken windows) vs. property that is damaged or degraded, but whose damage is limited to the currently degraded state (eaten oranges, perhaps a dented fender?). <br /><br />In the former case, the owner must come up with the funds to make the repair at current replacement rates in order to prevent further loss. <br /><br />But, in the latter case, the choice to live with the less-wonderful state of things or sell the damaged goods exists in a closed/static situation, stable to the moment that the damage occured.Juggling Frogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03572259373523756647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-43635906979969422662009-12-14T10:12:36.461+02:002009-12-14T10:12:36.461+02:00I might mention that the gemara is very clear that...I might mention that the gemara is very clear that you don't look at the whole field, but only a 1/60 amount. Furthermore that is only a field in which case you don't know how much the animal ate and even if you did there is no established market price. And brining in evaluators is an option for other things like houses or prices of field. It seems to me a window is different.Avraham https://www.blogger.com/profile/07822433921393627746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11287959.post-20688610959654229622009-12-14T09:45:12.351+02:002009-12-14T09:45:12.351+02:00I have a whole essay on this subject based on the ...I have a whole essay on this subject based on the Gemara in Bava Metzia (circa daf 101b). The Tosfot there makes perfect sense but it takes a certain amount of work to explain him. The Rashi is the real problem there and this was about two years ago. Then recently I noticed Reb Moshe also saw the problem with Rashi. But the <br />gemara is pretty clear about the situation of an animal eating some produce in a field that it is not so simple just to look at the price of the produce since it has been eaten and prices fluctuate etc. (The Gemara knows that but to look at the devaluation of the whole field is ridiculous so the gemara comes up with compromise which is one seah in 60). Then tosfot explains it is a way which perfectly sensible.--Avraham https://www.blogger.com/profile/07822433921393627746noreply@blogger.com